It’s not a question of want. It’s a question of when. And as I already said, there are proprietary platforms utilizing ActivityPub, and for sure more will follow. This is not dependent on what I or you do. You can’t own a spec and claim it for yourself. Would you try to stop HTML being used by proprietary platforms?
I refuse to accept the “bad guy” status here, for Feneas or myself. We’re FOSS people writing FOSS software being attacked by FOSS people for the time we spend in our free time to work on things we love. This makes me sad.
This is not political and no matter how many times you repeat it @how and @eliotberriot , it wont make it political, except to yourself.
I’ll repeat once again why we are here to offer our help so that it doesn’t get lost in the noise. We’re going to set up a forum for federated web discussion. We came to suggest cooperation from SocialHub to avoid the situation where there are multiple discussion places to point people to, for example in the case of people wanting to discuss interop issues. Often, to my experience, people either want to discuss these on their own favourite platform, a neutral platform or none at all. Not all platforms federate and ActivityPub is not the only way to federate.
We came here to suggest if SocialHub was to expand it’s focus, we would gladly sponsor it or fully run it. The latter was the favourable option from the current maintainers due to the fact that they have not had time to put into keeping the forum running. You might be happy with your project specific categories, but there are requests for new ones which have a long time unattended to, for example New category for ForgeFed?. We can help here by providing financially secure hosting and maintainer power, in the return of expanding focus outside ActivityPub.
The people who currently pay for this forum are happy with this solution. Unfortunately it seems due to the fact that we’re registered as a non-political association in Finland, @how has taken us up as the enemy.
Now, we’re going to set up a Discourse anyway, that will be welcome for anyone (and I mean everyone) who wants to discuss federated web technology. There is no rebranding effort that @nightpool claims - we’ve said multiple times we’re happy to keep the domain. We just want to pay the costs in exchange for expanding the scope of the forum.
If the current users of the forum feel this is not something that is a good thing to happen, let us have multiple forums then. Whether that is a big victory for the free software movement or not, I’m not going to judge on that.
But please stop talking about us as bad guys. This is why the proprietary side wins because the FOSS people fight among themselves.
I’ll leave further comments to actual questions about Feneas or what the handover would look like, or the future of SocialHub. Any further comments about politics will be ignored. Your claim that being not political is political is like calling an atheist religious.